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true.
BUT
you have no idea how many people we get day by day only buying gangster type games.
not to be racist or anything but where i work 99.9% of the population is the try hard im a tough guy leb.
and the only games they play are the GTA saints row type of games.
so if those 2 games did come out they would have the flock lineing up out the doors.
yamum,
Your assuming a game like 8 days which was a new IP and the Getaway which wasn’t that popular on the PS2 to begin with had the potential to sale 8m like GTAIV which was multiplatform(not 8mil on the PS3 by itself)
The exclusives on the PS3 have yet to sale 8mil alone. Their are other games that are sandbox games that don’t come close to selling like GTAIV or previous versions before it. Prototype and Infamous say hello and we tried.
it was a finantual action by sony to cancel them.
they simply were spending to much cashola on exclusives.
i would say there on hold not canned probably next year they will revive them hopefully.
if they did can it for eyepet.
that would have to be the stupidest thing ive ever heard.
what do you think is going to sell better
eye pet V 8 days or getaway.
both 8 days and getaway are allot like GTAIV that sold what 8M copies?
so they have a 8 million copy game EXCLUSIVE to the ps3 and they dropped it.
thats like saying heres 100 million dollars im going to use it as firewood.
Blaiyan:
Hopefully they were just “shelved to a later date.” I don’t know about the Getaway, but I remember 8 days looked really nice. Also, if those cancellations were because of Eyepet…..I don’t know about that as a gamble. Assuming all things were equal with regards to dev costs, I can’t imagine that EyePet would generate more revenue than those other two games. We’ll see though, it’s all about the casual gamers, and hell it may be cute enough to buy for my kids.
@yamum
I think those cancellations were decisions made by Sony in favor of development for some casual games like EyePet.
i’ll put it to you like this. do you wanna please the 24 sony fanboys who come check your shit or do you wanna please the millions of people who just want the fuckin numbers. bottom line i don’t know how many ps3’s were sold from reading your article simply because you hid them to make sony look good and so some fanboys can rest easy at night. making them look good is not your job. it’s theirs. so now i have to go to kotaku or somebody else to get those numbers because you failed to provide them. case closed.
HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE GOT DAMNIT.
NPD. ALL I NEED IS
WII
PS3
360
DS
DSI
PS2
PSP
LET ME DECIDE THE WINNER GOT DAMNIT. IF YOU DON’T HAVE ALL YOUR FACTS TOGETHER YOU CAN’T TELL ME WHO’S WINNING. SO JUST GIVE ME THE GOT DAMNED INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS. LIKE ALL THE BIG SITES DO. MAYBE THAT’S WHY THEY ARE BIG IS BECAUSE THEY GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT HOW THEY WANT IT. just tryin to help you out.
Blaiyan:
The type of deal I described would absolutely need to extend to more than just Gamestop. Wal-mart, Bestbuy, Amazon, pretty much any legit retail enterprise would need to be included. Would people move to ebay? Maybe, but sales on ebay would not be near as much as at a Gamestop because there is a loss in the ease of the transaction, so the damage to the game industry would be lessened. Also, I’m not necessarily sure that Bungie and Rockstar don’t make noise about the whole used game sales issue. They sell a large amount of games, but they are still affected by potential sales that are lost as the result of a used game sale.
Your comments regarding DLC are why I generally have no problems with it. I know some folks get angry about the costs and such, but this is a way for the devs to recoup some dev dollars that the used game market can’t touch. The same is true of the upcoming digital distribution models the 360 and PSP are looking to apply. I do have my problems with that though. I find it confusing that they still intend to charge full retail price when I don’t get any of the following: case, disc, manual…..anything physical. Games released via digital distribution have no business selling at full retail price.
yamum:
Some good points there.
if game stop originaly gave devs a used sales margin.
than mayb games like the getaway and 8 days wouldent of been canned.
DAM THOSE THINGS WERE LOOKING HOT!!
game devs definetly should get a cut of used game sales.
its their game they made it, they spilt there own blood sweat and cash into it its only fair.
if anyone shouldent get a share its gamestop what are they doing?
selling the game, wow thats extremely hard they definitely should be compensated for that………..
especially for ps3 exclusives.
lets face it sony exclusives are not selling any where near as well as they should.
KZ2 is at what 2.5 million sold?
gears 2 did that in 4 days.
sony exclusives should be selling alot better because i think there deserve the sales.
so if anyone they should be getting a cut in used game sales.
i dident realize how much profit gamestop made of used games 80% is a shit load (if thats a accurate number)devs should definitely get a piece of that pie.
as for rewarding devs for crap games may be if they made a little more cashola they wouldent make a bad game, because of that extra cashola they got from used games they had enough to up the game there making.
may be put some restrictions in, like 3 strikes and you have lost your profit.
or set a limit say if a game sells 1M in its first month every used game sold every month there after they get a percentage of that.
that way devs will be encouraged to make good games.
gamestop make 80% of their profit off used games all they do is sell the bloody game so i think its only fair there the ones who have spent years and millions of dollars making the title.
video games especially AAA games for next gen systems cost allot of money, so the more money the devs make the more AAA games we get.
think about it if MW2 dident sell well, if no one bought it do you seriously think we would get another COD?
by them making a profit it should lift the quality of games thats a win for us and a win for the devs to because they make more cashola, and more importantly they build a reputation for themselves.
thats what allot of people are ignoring these days, they dont care how good a game is as long as it brings in the big bucks.
fuck that i want a quality game, devs should be worried about giving us the best game they can.
if they do that i can guarantee the cash will come rolling in, because were gamers and we want the best of the best dont we?
were going to chose the better lot no matter where it comes from
I’m not going to waste time on the article bit again or any of this meaningless back and forth. The only thing i’ll point out is that this is a “hip hop” gamer site where one would assume slang would be prominent or at the very least acceptable.
@logkill
That’s sounds like a good idea but like you and many others have said, Gamestop makes most of their money off of used games. Developers would have to strike that deal with other huge online and retail stores. Otherwise what you’d probably have is a growth of folks selling through amazon or Ebay and or you’d have Amazon and Toys ‘R’ Us stepping in. In fact they already have. Also with the weeks or months gap by then the hype for the game may have died down tremendously. By then Amazon could be selling Brand New copies on sale at $40 or even $30 which they usually do.
There’s also the point about bad games (or mostly games the masses decided are bad). I don’t know if you’ll really here these cries from the Bungie’s or Rockstar’s. I assume If anything they’ll go along to put on the appearance of solidarity. I think it’ll be (had to check the exact names) the AMM’s (WET), Blue Omega’s (Damnation) and the Tigon’s (Wheelman) (that make mediocre games) leading the way. I suspect a push from publishers too who may have some big games but also put out ones that just don’t sell like Afro Samurai (Namco) and NPPL 2009 (Activision) or even the lower end guys like Southpeak.
Even if they make a great game there’s no assurance that it’ll resonate with the majority of gamers. They are just going to have to hope for success. It seems like they are trying to find themselves a new revenue stream with allegedly leaving out content from games and charging for them later as DLC.
@blazeitup:
Yeah I think you need some tougher skin because I seem to have gotten under yours. When do people talk the way that I write? Well in my life that would be everyday. I like to make myself understood, I don’t want anyone guessing at what I am trying to say. That’s the whole point. If you choose to write such that a normal person can’t understand what you are trying to communicate, well that’s your problem not mine…but I will call you on it. And does the fact that I am content to attack someone who decided they wanted to defend their point by attacking me personally make me a hypocrite? Perhaps, but as they say “what’s good for the goose.”
@mboo:
And I thought what I was saying was getting people worked up….Yeah, you are in for a flaming. Have fun
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No I’m calling you an asshole because I’ve read your post’s and that’s how you’ve came across to me. As an asshole. It has nothing to do with attacking you because we share different opinion’s. It’s to do with you being quick to insult other’s based on there intelligence and how you think your more inportant or more intelligent than that person and that to me say’s your an asshole.
You see you said I’m unschooled and I used an ad hominem attack against you. But reguardless of how you injustify yourself, you to have used ad hominem attack’s against other’s. It doesn’t matter if they did it to you first, an adhominem attack is still an ad hominem attack. Therefore you are a hypocrite.
Ya see your quick to judge people on there intelligence going by a comment they posted, but people don’t need to use word’s like ad hominem. Ad hominem, like when the fuck do you talk to people and say blah, blah, blah ad hominem la de fucking da. You don’t, people can use whatever word they like and not bother using fullstops or commas. It may make it difficult to read so don’t fucking read it. Find another site with intelligent people on it and do your bitching there. Oh and gobshite is a slang word we use where I’m from and basicly it mean’s you think your a know it all but your really an idiot idiot.
By the way that is why I pulled the Sony Defense Force article because that is the only site that would think of pulling a BS article like that. You claim you came up with the concept of your article when I already proved where you got the idea along with the picture from the “hater” site.
You want to call people that disagree with you as haters yet you decide to gather your ideas from the very worst of what I hate to even call journalisim.
HHG,
This is why sites don’t even bother to compare the companies in the way you TRIED to do and that is because all you did was guess that Sony is “more” profitable than MS yet even Blacksmiths post doesn’t give us the whole details.
Give us these facts of what we know you did not bother to try and find prior to doing the article that clearly looks premature.
How much money is Sony making off the PSP and PS2 after manufacturing cost?
How much is Sony losing off the PS3 currently?
how much is Sony making of royalties from multiplatform games
Do you have exact numbers for how many games are sold on all 3 platforms for U.S. since the article was focused on NPD numbers?
How much are they making exactly from the sales of games on the PSP?
How much is MS making off the 360?
How much is MS making from the sales of software for the 360 games including royalties from multiplatform games?
How much is the development cost for exclusive games that Sony/MS make?
How much is MS making from Xbox Live?
How much is Sony making from Home?
Now you have the research to do a article titled “Sony Beats Microsoft Again”.
How come you didn’t point out the YOY increase for the 360?
What about the 360 being the only console to actually increase the YOY sales by 9% and the decline YOY sales of of PS3 -59%, PS2 -1%, and PSP -52%?
We already know why because as I stated in my comments it wouldn’t make for a good article on Sony’s part.
If your article had this type of information in it then we could see the point but that is the problem with your articles. Your articles are based on opinion and not the full facts You got Blacksmith who I understand is industry so shouldn’t be difficult to some of that information. That is why journalist do not try and do an article they don’t have facts about. This is why your article was looked as flawed. Even if you had the roles reversed and you came out with the article in the same way I would still call you out on it. I enjoy your site until articles like this that have show no details of facts in the article like trophies article and this article. I disagree with the point of the article because it doesn’t state facts and it is clearly a premise of what the Sony Defense Force has done
@ Xx BoBbY xX,
I hope that isn’t what you teach your kids because I thought you mentioned that you were married with kids and if you are then god I hope this isn’t what you teach them if you think trying to speak slang instead of actually typing proper english for people to understand you in the first place is “gangsta”, then you keep pushing that one sparky.
Typing like your illiterate doesn’t help anyone understand what you are saying in the first place and it doesn’t matter that I am black. Typing like you speak doesn’t help any of us understand what you are saying in first place. You just type like your uneducated.
I hope you got a chance to see what the whole point of President Obama’s speech was focused on. Here it is if you didn’t get the opportunity to see it.
youtube.com/watch?v=Zv6EAaoFNno
Everybody really needs to shut the fuck up. Especially the people who waited for the show to be posted so they could bitch again. This shit is immature, and you people are acting like a bunch of nerds and retards. People are getting disrespectful. This is bullshit.
@DaSolidProof:
The hope would be that if Gamestop does decide to provide some of the used game sales to developers, that those residuals are based on the games that they sell. I know sometimes crap games get picked up in the used game market, but I would think they are the minority. Most people are picking up popular games and trying to get them on the cheap. I actually think that the compromise I noted is better for all parties. Give new games a lead time. Let developers make those initial dollars. After a certain time frame, whatever that happens to be, then open up the title to the used games market. I think that would be better for all parties concerned.
@blazeitup:
Gobshit umm sure. I’m not generally in the habit of making up words, but if that’s what suits you, go for it. As for hypocrite, the only reason I could see you calling me a hypocrite is because in some of my posts I did go at people directly. The difference is I didn’t come out swinging the bat, I just grabbed it and used it against the person who did. I don’t know you and haven’t commented on anything you wrote and you decided to come out and call me an asshole. So yeah in response to that I have no problem calling you out as a dick. And no, frankly you aren’t calling things as you see them. You are attacking me because I don’t agree with your point. Well guess what, that’s what the real world is like. Get used to it.
The matter of the fact is that sometimes i can not be bothered to speak proper english it called slang look it up.
and as for wanna be internet guy “yeah right” I do have a life i work i earn money to live. Your not the only with grades here pal i just dont brag about it.
You joined this site because you want to share your comments which rightfully you do so.
Stop beening such a hypocite and enjoy what you have in life.
I have nothing else to say you’ll just keep on “blah blahing on”
@Logikill
You can keep commenting away about how intelligent you are and about me and my ad hominem attack. But I’m not in an arguement with you or don’t plan on having a conversation with you. I’m just telling you straight up, that you are a gobshit because I call thing’s how I see it. So save the word’s you recently found in an english dictionary for someone else but know this, you my friend are someone us with schooling call a hypocrite. Now if tou really are as smart as you think you are then you’ll know why your a hypocrite
@logikil
I know cars are assets, but I think you’re missing my point, there is no reason why developers should make a double profit off their products. Let’s say for example HHG’s statement is true and the developers that make these god awful games continue to flood market with these titles, what is to stop them from continuing to make these trash games if consumers who bought the game go trade the game and the developers make another profit off their trade-in?
“Call me the butcher..” Are you serious? Hang on a sec let me stop laughing real quick. As for sounding like someone who is stuck up…..is that what you call people who happen to speak using proper English? Well shit I guess I am stuck up then.
As far as “steppin off”, give me a break you wanna be internet tough guy. Wait, sorry, had to laugh again.
Fact is, I’m far from stuck up. I’m a grounded individual and family man. If not letting people get away with making stupid claims makes me stuck up and causes you trouble, well shit sorry to hurt your feelings.
whateva pal, wts ya beef anyways.
Call me the butcher coz i’ll give ya some beef
yah sound like one of them stuck up people Which i don’t like so
yah better step off.
Just make ya comments no big dnt be starting something which ya aint going to finsh
@Blazeitup:
Way to join the conversation. What you did is what those of us with schooling call an ad hominem attack. You know who typically resorts to ad hominem attacks? People who have nothing intelligent to say. You can call me an asshole all you want but it doesn’t invalidate anything I have written. I won’t go over why the article is just as stupid now as it was yesterday, my comments are there for all to read.
As for why MS doesn’t sell more consoles than Sony when looking at the price differences, well that’s something that we could have an intelligent conversation about if you weren’t just looking to enter the conversation by announcing that you are a dick. But honestly, who is going to have a problem with that point? Its valid.
@ Logikill. I’ve only 1 thing to say to you, and that is your an asshole fullstop.
To Hiphopgamer. Never mind the bullshit opinions some people have brought to the table on the last 2 articles that where posted. Most of us can see it was just a harmless article with 100% truth.
I don’t even know why some people have gotten there panties in a bunch over that. You clearly said Sony is beating Microsoft not PS3 is beating Xbox360 and that is common knowledge.
In saying all that, there is one thing I have to comment on though and some people ain’t gonna like it. PS3 sells at 400 dollars and Xbox360 sell’s at 200 dollar’s. Why is it that Xbox 360 only manages to outsell the PS3 each week by 10-20k unit’s a week. This is very bad economic time’s we are facing and a 200 dollar consol only manages to sell on average each week 15 thousand more unit’s than a 400 dollar consol.
Sony’s game division is beating microsoft’s game division. NDP number’s are the proff of that and in my eye’s PS3 is beating Xbox360 because if you have a consol that only sells 10-20k more units a week against a consol that sells for double the price of what your’s is, then your company’s doing something wrong and you’s are the fucking looser’s.
Cars and homes and the like are different than video games. Those items serve as assets for the owners, which is why financial software has you list your home and car when you are determining your net worth. Additionally, cars and the like carry a much higher price tag so going in to trade in your car isn’t the same as walking into gamestop and plopping down some games you don’t want anymore.
As for the developers, yeah bad games are a problem, but what about those companies that make the games you love? It isn’t just developers of bad games that get hurt, it’s all developers. Also, if companies making double profits bothers you, then you should despise Gamestop. Selling used games is a pure profit business for them….and they didn’t have to do any work at all.
@logikil
Good point, but I will have to disagree, so let say for example you have a Grand Am Pontiac, you trade in you car in for whatever other vehicle, do you believe GM should get a profit off your trade in? I know some developers are struggling to make a profit nowadays and it sucks, but i just don’t believe in some companies making a double profit off their products, especially if the game suck.
Xx Bobby xX:
There’s a difference between some spelling and grammar errors, and writing in such a way that people reading need to use the Rosetta Stone for dimwits to translate.
@DaSolidProof:
It’s too bad that’s the opinion that you hold regarding the used sale of video games. The video game industry is huge, that’s true, but developers struggle to make a profit or even break even on the games they make. Used game sales make that even worse, and for what? Gamestop sell’s newly released used games at a 5$ savings over what the retail price is. So you save 5 bucks and the developers who busted their asses for years in some cases saw none of that.
If Gamestop doesn’t want to share those profits with developers, that’s fine. But I think if they don’t do that then a decent compromise is to not allow used game sales of newly released titles. Give those titles a few months of real sales at retail before you cannibalize developers profits.
I reali dont care how i wrtie pal,
I’m not sum geek checkin for speelin errors and grama
Yo HHG Any chance of making these vids bluffer free or faster bluffer
HHG has got a point about that Sony beatin Ms so if everyone who heating why dont you put ya head up ya ass and see if it fits
Good show Hiphop, I don’t agree with the fact that developers should get a percentage of the games that are traded into Gamestop. They shouldn’t get nothing, if I buy any first, second and third party game, the game company are already making a profit off my purchase, why should they get another profit off my trade-in?
I brought it up again because HHG tried to justify the article in his video. He opened the door, I just walked through it.
And honestly man, I didn’t comment at all about your writing ability in the last article, but for Christ’s sake please learn how to write. You’re embarrassing yourself.
why the fuck is everyone bringin that up again
just leave it
sony beats ms i kno people are pissed so wht big wow
if ya own each consoles your good
I gave no hard facts….really? Did you bother to read my posts? Lets try this again for the slow kids in the class:
1. Sony sells 3 consoles MS sells 1. Wow 3 consoles sell more than one….shocking.
2. MS is the only console with YoY growth….that comes straight from NPD analyst reports.
3. Nintendo is crushing both of them.
4. The image comes from a sony fanboy site (gee i wonder what that is leading up to)
5. MS and Nintendo both had more games in the top 10 than Sony.
Those are all facts that I bought up repeatedly.
Those defending the article brought up one fact….a Company that sells 3 console is selling more than a company which sells only 1. Not anything I dispute. That’s like trying to convince someone that the sky is blue….NO SHIT.
Would I have an argument about which controller is better? No I wouldn’t, because it’s a matter of opinion, of which each person is entitled to their own. But if he tried to ply it off as fact…..yeah then we would have a problem because you can’t pass off opinion as fact, except hell going back to the Achievement/Trophy article that’s exactly what HHG tried to do. Here is what’s truly sad, those of you who are big fans of the site should be pushing for HHG to maintain his integrity as a game journalist instead of just following along in his defense like a bunch of lemmings.
i gotta come back.. i wasn’t gonna say anything but i agree. you had the perfect chance to tell the people that you made a mistake and you go and dig a deeper hole. the only reason i’m commenting about it is because i see that someone feels exactly the same way i felt when i heard that mess. you should’ve compared sony to nintendo bottom line or wii vs ps3 vs 360 numbers or hell even nintendo vs everybody else. its ok to throw a slight curve when it comes to gaming rumors. i mean really some people like celebrity gossip and then some people like gaming gossip. but when it comes to how much that actor/actress makes per film people want the facts and they go to more reliable sources. its the same with the sales numbers. i mean i’ll still be a fan no matter how this convo turns out but if this is how i get my npd numbers then i’ll just go to a more reliable source for it.
@Blacksmith
Don’t even waste your time arguing with these dudes.
How can a article get smashed with personal opinion(you gave no hard facts) , I backed up HHG article with facts of my own. Take another look Your rebuttal is what got smashed with reality. If HHG compares game controllers and comes to the conclusion that Sony’s is best (which it is) are you going to have a argument about that too!!
How can a article get shamed with personal opinion(you gave no hard facts) , I backed up HHG article with facts of my own. Take another look Your rebuttal is what got smashed with reality. If HHG compares game controllers and comes to the conclusion that Sony’s is best (which is is) are you going to have a argument about that too!!
You know it’s too bad. You had a prime opportunity to explain why your other article’s premise was poor. Instead you tried to push the same arguments that continually got smashed in the comments. I mean I shouldn’t expect any different, it is your show and all, and you have every right to say what you want. I just figured you might want to be honest with your readers, particularly those that have no vested interest in which console company beats which. And I don’t remember anyone really pointing to pc game sales as an argument against your article, at least not in any of my posts. To each his own though. Your talk about an xbox handheld and a 720 or whatever it may be called, yeah at that point your article would be valid. At this moment in time……no its not. Also, the apple comparison made no sense….neither did bringing up the fact that Sony manufactures PC’s or laptops. Yeah Sony makes laptops…..guess what, MS doesn’t. Oh and those Sony laptops run Windows, an MS operating system, something that Sony does not produce.
And why didn’t you mention that your image came from SDF. Hiding that fact and then standing in front of a stack of different console boxes to show your “gamer cred.” It’s pretty transparent.
As for the GT5 car scan….yeah it would be cool. Problem though, how does Sony and Polyphony Digital deal with the licensing issues that would crop up anytime someone loaded up a car that they don’t have a license for? Racing games that have actual cars have to license those cars, they don’t just get to stick them in at their choosing. I would think that would cause some serious issues. If they do find a way to make that happen though….yeah it would be pretty damn cool. I just don’t quite see it happening. Aside from the licensing you have trying to create a model that matches the body style of the car, having the game on the fly create textures for that car, figuring out what type of inside they plan to give your car since you almost certainly wouldn’t get the actual inside of your vehicle. Those cars would almost certainly be of inferior quality to a car designed specifically for the game.